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#402874 - 07/20/07 04:02 PM
Re: Appetite for Destruction turns 20!!
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Bill, you've officially "jumped the proverbial shark" with your "buttrock sense" comment. I understand their style is not up your alley, but to downplay the album's significance and claim it only changed the metalhead's fashion sense is quite astonishing. If that is the case, then explain how their catalog pushed a million units in the States last year--especially in the current climate? Moreover, after viewing those performances, how can you say that they are just another pushover metal band?
The reunion of the original band, sans Adler, would be the most important event of the year, in rock music, if it happened. Not only would it be an economic juggernaut, but it would inject a major dose of life into the music world! I think they could pull it off! Furthermore, this album is still in heavy rotation on modern rock radio stations and has stood the test of time!
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#402885 - 07/20/07 04:12 PM
Re: Appetite for Destruction turns 20!!
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Bill, you've officially "jumped the proverbial shark" with your "buttrock sense" comment. I understand their style is not up your alley, but to downplay the album's significance and claim it only changed the metalhead's fashion sense is quite astonishing. If that is the case, then explain how their catalog pushed a million units in the States last year--especially in the current climate? Moreover, after viewing those performances, how can you say that they are just another pushover metal band?
The reunion of the original band, sans Adler, would be the most important event of the year, in rock music, if it happened. Not only would it be an economic juggernaut, but it would inject a major dose of life into the music world! I think they could pull it off! Furthermore, this album is still in heavy rotation on modern rock radio stations and has stood the test of time!
Sorry, but I haven't "jumped the shark," fanboy. I was merely pointing out the obvious. As for the "most important event of the year," yeah, sure, right, Karnak. But we're not talking about the Beatles here. We're talking about a band that may be gods to some, but to others it is an annoying denouement to a bloated era of rock best forgotten. And while it's easy to speculate that if G&R got back together it would be the event of the century, that's a non-starter because it ain't ever gonna happen. So it's safe for you to speculate all you want. Hey, I'm a Brian Wilson Kool-Aid drinker. I thought the release of the music from Smile would change the world. It changed my world, but not the one around me.
I think that, outside of a few large pockets of kerchief-headed Bic-lighter wielding fanatics, an reunion of most of the original G&R would garner little more than a collective yawn, along with badly written hagiographic cover articles in Rolling Stone and maybe Entertainment Weekly about how Waxl & Co. "brought the rock back."
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#402891 - 07/20/07 04:16 PM
Re: Appetite for Destruction turns 20!!
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[quote=Bill Lumbergh] except in some ironic buttrock sense. Line of the day!!!! I do love the GNR LP "My Michelle" still kicks ASS, but, IMO, the very BEST album of the last 20 years is................ 
Cosign.
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#402895 - 07/20/07 04:19 PM
Re: Appetite for Destruction turns 20!!
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Shout At The Devil is almost 25 years old (YIKES!). Appetite For Destruction is indeed the best rock album released in the past 20 years. of course your mileage may vary but I think most rock music lovers will agree. It was one hell of an album. Certainly one of the best of the last 20 years...if not "the" best hard rock/metal albums.
Hey, Tomars: Here's one of your "most rock music lovers" who agrees with you...
[snicker]
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#402896 - 07/20/07 04:21 PM
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It's a one-hit-wonder but "Appetite" is a GREAT rock album, the first to bridge a gap, so to speak. They NEVER pulled it off live, though.
Motley Crue shouldn't even be mentioned in the same paragraph, let alone sentence.
And that U2 album loses numerous points for including "I Still Haven't Found..." which makes me want to jump off a bridge each and every time I hear it.
np: "Rocket Queen"
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#402905 - 07/20/07 04:34 PM
Re: Appetite for Destruction turns 20!!
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>>>Nothing like a Friday fight on the VR to get my juices going!
Exactly what that signature photo of yours does to mine, btw!
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#402910 - 07/20/07 04:38 PM
Re: Appetite for Destruction turns 20!!
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GordonPymPoe
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I must of struck a nerve, as you are already, on page two, resorting to your historical "fanboy" insult.
You act like this board should be under the command of your "effaced naration"--their is only one way to interpret music, and one type of music that is "hip". The point, I think many are trying to make without calling people names, is that at the twenty year anniversary of this album it is time to admit that it was a landmark--love it or hate it. BTW, not many would say that they were the denouement to a bloated era; I reckon, many believe them to be the exposition that opened the door for a more raw form of rock which ultimately led to grunge. What would I know, though, I am just a minor character responding to your explicit judgement.
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#402914 - 07/20/07 04:41 PM
Re: Appetite for Destruction turns 20!!
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It's a one-hit-wonder but "Appetite" is a GREAT rock album, the first to bridge a gap, so to speak. They NEVER pulled it off live, though.
Normally, GnR hold no interest for me and Axl's juvenile, narcissistic antics are ridiculous. At least Izzy Stradlin picked an amusing stage name though he gets docked points for stupidly peeing in the airplane sink. Come up with something original.
That said, I enjoyed, and bought, "Sweet Child" and thought it was a good tune nicely done. I noticed that Slash even played the riff note perfect on that live clip from You Tube.
Though I liked it, I thought "Sweet Child" ran out of steam right at the point where they begin pointlessly asking "Where do we go now?" At least they were honest in lyrically acknowledging that they didn't know what to do next when they were writing the song.
The point is, I felt the song should have been about two minutes shorter (the "Where do we go" part could comfortably be booted).
The band felt the opposite. The song apparently ran several minutes longer than the released version, the record company appropriately made it more concise and the band screamed in protest. Happily, the shorter version won out.
And that U2 album loses numerous points for including "I Still Haven't Found..." which makes me want to jump off a bridge each and every time I hear it.
Yeah, I've hated that annoying song since it first came out. It should be on the short list of songs that never get played again.
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#402919 - 07/20/07 04:45 PM
Re: Appetite for Destruction turns 20!!
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Bill Lumbergh
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I must of struck a nerve, as you are already, on page two, resorting to your historical "fanboy" insult.
You act like this board should be under the command of your "effaced naration"--their is only one way to interpret music, and one type of music that is "hip". The point, I think many are trying to make without calling people names, is that at the twenty year anniversary of this album it is time to admit that it was a landmark--love it or hate it. BTW, not many would say that they were the denouement to a bloated era; I reckon, many believe them to be the exposition that opened the door for a more raw form of rock which ultimately led to grunge. What would I know, though, I am just a minor character responding to your explicit judgement.
Hey, I'm a minor character, too, albeit one who knows to put "have" rather than "of" after "must," and I kinda know the difference between "their" and "there." But your message comes across. And, yeah, I come off like a pompous geek sometimes, but in my heart I know that I'm merely one of many, and that what makes this place click is that there are many voices there.
As for hip, naw, not me. I prefer sincerity.
Sorry about the dust-up. It's just that Appetites for Destruction is, to me, the sound of fingernails on a blackboard, or the noise a gate makes when the bottom of it is scraping the concrete. So I tend to get riled up and spout off whenever the subject comes up. It's just one of my character defects. And my old pal Chris Morris loves the band, and he's got great taste in music.
So there. Time for a sandwich.
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