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#406039 - 07/27/07 12:23 AM
Re: Appetite for Destruction turns 20!!
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Appetite is a fine record, but nothing earth-shattering. I don't understand why everyone makes such a big fat hairy deal over that freakin' record! Put the record back into the context of what was going on music-wise in 87 (Lisa Lisa & The Cult Jam, Tiffany, Whitney Houston)and you soon realize it didn't take all THAT to be head and shoulders above that garbage.
For myself during that time period, Nothing's Shocking was the album, and it totally and completely blew and still blows SchmAxl & Co. out of the fucking water.
Here are some more that dusted AFD:
Pleased To Meet Me - The Replacements
Diesel & Dust - Midnight Oil
Electric - The Cult
Franks Wild Years - Tom Waits
Youre Living All Over Me - Dinosaur Jr
Warehouse: Songs And Stories - Husker Du
Good point.
AFD or Lisa Lisa?
....lol...doesn't seem exactly fair.
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#406515 - 07/27/07 07:58 PM
Re: Appetite for Destruction turns 20!!
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Excerpt from the article, classic stuff:
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/15690883
Axl Rose was lying nude inside a Manhattan recording studio's darkened vocal booth, working out some unorthodox last-minute overdubs. Tape was rolling, and he knew something wasn't right. Beneath him was a cute nineteen-year-old stripper named Adriana Smith, who happened to be his drummer's girlfriend. "Come on, Adriana, make it real," Rose barked, pausing mid-coitus. "Stop faking!"
On that warm weekend evening in the spring of 1987, engineer Vic Deyglio had set up a top-of-the-line vocal microphone to capture the sounds of Rose and Smith having sex -- and at one point, he had to dash into the booth to adjust the mike as they went at it. "It was like a Ron Jeremy set in there," Deyglio recalls. Smith wanted to get back at Guns n' Roses drummer Steven Adler for cheating on her -- and had always liked the singer better anyway. "I would do anything Axl asked me to do," says Smith, now a forty-year old mom. "He's fuckin' magical." Though she was drunk and giggly that day, Smith eventually gave Rose what he wanted: Her orgasmic moans -- which ended up high in the mix on Appetite for Destruction's final track, "Rock Queen" -- are for real. But when Adler found out what had been captured on his band's album, the drummer "fucking freaked out," Smith says.
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#406653 - 07/28/07 01:51 AM
Re: Appetite for Destruction turns 20!!
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The current state of Buns and Poses, with all the bullshit surrounding the (how many tuesdays left in 2007?) non-release of Chinese Democracy, is just pathetic.
That said, Appetite is a very good record. Welcome to the Jungle is a great song, that still stands up over time. It's so Easy and Mr Brownstone still hold up very well, also. On the flipside, Sweet Child O Mine is as dated as the photos in the classmates.com ad.
I was a junior in high school in the fall of 1987, I appreciated that they weren't pathetic poof metal and that it was all over the culture.
Like many people on this thread, Nothing Shocking had a much, much bigger impact on me when it came out the next year. Seeing Janes open for iggy pop (though he demolished them and changed my life for good with his performance) was cool, and seeing them a few months later as mountain song was blowing up was a generational/local badge of pride- perry was from north miami beach, and he was stirring shit up.
However - saying that Either of those records was hands-down the best rock record of the era is nonsense. Clearly, no conversation about the the best rock band from 1983-1989 can be had without talking about the Bad Brains. No band on earth matched them for power, soul, riffage and insanity. Janes wasnt nearly as original or powerful, and Buns and Poses turned into a self-parody within 2 years.
Pleased To Meet Me isn't even close to being the best Replacements album, and I say that as someone who worshipped the mats in high school. Why that record keeps getting held up is a mystery to me, unless your first exposure to them was that I'm too cool to make a video for "alex chilton."
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#406698 - 07/28/07 11:07 AM
Re: Appetite for Destruction turns 20!!
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I am quite a bit younger, but I clearly recall Mountain Song and the rise of Jane's. I lived in a fairly small college town, and wore it as a badge of pride that not only did I know who they were, but also owned Nothing's Shocking when virtually all of my friends were out of the loop. My best friend's brother was in the Army, stationed in Germany and would send over new cassette tapes for us all the time--Agent Orange, Nirvana's Bleach, Dinosaur Jr., Bad Brains, etc.
Even though we were the Alt. Kids, who knew who the Mats were, and listened to Boy's Don't Cry (made just after we were born) & The Clash, we all were completely blown away by Appetite, and to a smaller extent Master of Puppets. The angst, lyrics, and danger combined to create a cultural phenomenon that encompassed our hatred of authority and our curiosity of the drug-crazed lifestyle. While many argue this album was all about timing, I still think if it came out in 1992, or 2001, it would have been huge!
You all say Guns burned out by 1989 or whatever, but I recall 1992 being a huge year for them. The UYI's, while taking a different path, are loaded with great songs, and if they could have trimmed them down to one 15 song album it would rival other great rock records of the modern era.
FYI, thank you for bringing up Bad Brains--incredible!!
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#406896 - 07/29/07 02:42 AM
Re: Appetite for Destruction turns 20!!
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ok anyone heard the original line up rumor at key club tonight?
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