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#544025 - 06/29/08 01:19 AM
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Gas prices are never coming down, and will only continue to rise, so this is going to become far more common for bands to cut back on touring.
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#544050 - 06/29/08 08:52 AM
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I've had a tour cancelled due to shortfall support from the label being denied, mainly due to escalating gas prices.
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#544057 - 06/29/08 09:23 AM
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$ 6500. a week is very low for a tour that size.
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#544287 - 06/30/08 10:29 AM
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Do you think that this will lead to bands having fewer dates and using webcasts and other forms of media?
Or do you think the general public isn't ready for that and we'll see even higher ticket prices from the big bands and no tours for little bands?
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#544327 - 06/30/08 11:25 AM
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was wondering about if this would lead to other media, myself. I think for some secondary markets, if a tour can't make it there, if the use of 'movie theater simulcasts' will become a bigger business. Say, simulcasts to 50 or 60 markets that can't be reached on a routing?
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#544332 - 06/30/08 11:32 AM
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See I was thinking that wouldn't be the worst idea ever.
A Mid level band might not be able to afford to go to Omaha. But they could simulcast into a theater and charge $10 a head.
Yeah it's not the same experience, but it also doesn't cost as much and may actually provide better view and sound than having the cheap seats at any particular venue.
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#544420 - 06/30/08 01:35 PM
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nobody i know personally has ceased to tour or play live because of gas prices yet, but it's obviously happening.
i did walk away from one of my employers recently because what he was paying me wasn't enough to cover my expenses to show up for gigs...but there were some other mitigating factors, too. i think the travel expenses thing was just the cinder block that broke the camels' back.
the sad thing about this is that the top of the touring food chain will just use this as an excuse to jack up the price of tickets again and do what they can to insulate themselves from even feeling the pinch....until fewer people start showing up as a result of the combination of higher ticket prices and gasoline costs.
i don't know if there's anywhere to hide from this.
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#544431 - 06/30/08 01:49 PM
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I know bands (very low profile bands) that are still going on their summer tours, but instead of hoping to break even, they are now resigned to losing money on the tour. But that hasn't stopped them; they are the kind of bands that will probably never become well known and they think touring is more fun than doing something else with their vacation - so they plan to keep doing it. It has never been about making money for them, but they do have to worry about being able to lose more than usual.
In the end, they just love playing music and figure right now it's basically a pay to play system except the paying is at the gas pump, etc.
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#544432 - 06/30/08 01:50 PM
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Saw on the news last night that gas in Mexico is still $2.50 US per gallon due to government subsidies. Maybe bands need to start singing in Spanish?
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#544437 - 06/30/08 01:55 PM
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There's a band from Austin, The Ugly Beats (a great band by the way and I have nothing to do with them outside of being a fan) who play Mexico fairly regularly, they love it and have gotten nice size crowds there.
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#544445 - 06/30/08 02:03 PM
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There's a band from Austin, The Ugly Beats (a great band by the way and I have nothing to do with them outside of being a fan) who play Mexico fairly regularly, they love it and have gotten nice size crowds there.
as does Roger Clyne.
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#544458 - 06/30/08 02:15 PM
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I think the govt owns all of the gas stations in Mexico. I would think that the people from south TX could drive over there and fill up hella cheap. That would be the only benefit to going to mexico though.
They can and do. There's also no ethanol in Mexican gas, so I think it's only a matter of time before the EPA steps in and busts the practice.
You could always catch a "show" while you're there.
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#544469 - 06/30/08 02:25 PM
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Here's an article I read last week on the subject, including some comments from Ken at Dirtnap Records which is always cool.
Bands ditch tours because of gas
Seems the west coast will be hurt the most because the California cities are so far apart. But either way this is just going to trickle down to the live market with less band available to fill local clubs. Maybe local bands will start being local again and fans will have to follow them instead.
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#544471 - 06/30/08 02:27 PM
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I love Ken, he is a hell of a guy and runs a great label
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#544603 - 06/30/08 06:22 PM
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It will hurt pretty much everyone who does not live in the Northeast or in the UK. I don't think it will hurt the clubs though. They'll just have a million local bands to choose from. If anything, it will be harder to get booked locally due to the increased competition.
The next 5-10 years are going to be difficult for the live music industry. The aging cash cows will be retiring and the small indie bands will be sidelined.
he winners will be bands like Radiohead and NIN who are young enough to still have plenty of tours in them and big enough to be able to command whatever ticket prices/accommodations they need. Honestly, those guys are extraordinarily lucky to have completed their record deals, and be free agents at a time like this.
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#544604 - 06/30/08 06:22 PM
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Even with gas prices so high, people will still pay high $$$ to go to shows if the music's any good.
Well, looks like a lot of empty venues this summer...sorry for that caveat.
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#544607 - 06/30/08 06:26 PM
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I think the big tours will do fine. If your willing to spend $300-400 on a pair of tickets, spending an extra $20 in gas to drive an hour into town is no big deal. Most of the people that spend that much are older and only go out once or twice a year, so their willing to splurge.
If you're paying $5-10 to see some small potatoes band, chances are, you are young and broke and spending a fortune on gas to drive into town, or to another town, is just not an option.
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#544766 - 07/01/08 08:27 AM
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Burning Brides are currently on their second tour of the US in their van that was converted from diesel to "veggie" last year. It runs up to 70mph on the oil funk from restaurant grease traps.
Saved 'em approx 4K in fuel costs per tour apparently...
That's total econo travel in order to deliver the rock to the masses.
Godspeed, rock soldiers.
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#544897 - 07/01/08 12:20 PM
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Yep, the band Piebald did this with their van a few years ago and were featured on several news shows and articles about it.
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