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#556663 - 08/02/08 09:44 AM Why lead singers of bands should't go solo..
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This article was inspired by Eddie Vedder's solo outing. I read it and immediately thought of Peter Wolf's post J Geils outing (one big hit and then...). ...

http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/getback/4083/why-lead-singers-should-never-go-solo

Of course, there are obvious exceptions to the "don't go solo" rule: John Lennon and Sir Paul, for example. I don't agree with him on Sting, although an esteemed radio colleague of mine always said he loved The Police, but hated solo Sting.

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#556666 - 08/02/08 10:27 AM Re: Why lead singers of bands should't go solo.. [Re: Radio Chick]
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#556681 - 08/02/08 01:46 PM Re: Why lead singers of bands should't go solo.. [Re: Radio Chick]
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While some solo outings are good, or maybe even great, I have a hard time thinking of artists whose solo output was superior to the band's repetoire.

I think Bjork is the only one.

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#556683 - 08/02/08 01:56 PM Re: Why lead singers of bands should't go solo.. [Re: Hsien_ko]
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ummm. george michael.
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#556694 - 08/02/08 02:37 PM Re: Why lead singers of bands should't go solo.. [Re: FranzFerdinand]
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Rob Thomas. Second solo album will be coming out in a few months. However, it looks like he his going to try to balance a solo career and also put out albums with his band. How many artists can you think of that have gone solo yet also remain with their band and produce albums? Obviously, Vedder is giving it a try. Any others?
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#556695 - 08/02/08 02:40 PM Re: Why lead singers of bands should't go solo.. [Re: Knighttime]
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Phil Collins.
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#556696 - 08/02/08 02:48 PM Re: Why lead singers of bands should't go solo.. [Re: FranzFerdinand]
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There you go. I forgot about him (though I didn't like Faith much myself).
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#556697 - 08/02/08 03:23 PM Re: Why lead singers of bands should't go solo.. [Re: Radio Chick]
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 Originally Posted By: Radio Chick
I read it and immediately thought of Peter Wolf's post J Geils outing (one big hit and then...). ...

Lights Out was a fine album.

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#556701 - 08/02/08 03:27 PM Re: Why lead singers of bands should't go solo.. [Re: Wombosi]
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 Originally Posted By: Wombosi
Phil Collins.


Right. To partly answer my own question I guess you can include Bruce, Dave Matthews, Tom Petty. As much as I love Petty's music I recently watched Running Down A Dream. I always thought Petty's solo work sounded a lot like his work with the band. I guess there's a reason for that...some of the band members played on his solo album. I didn't realize that. I'm a fan of the singles but not a big enough fan to know that much about the band. I bought the DVD to learn more about Petty and the band. Anyway, one of the band members commented in the movie that he thought he was playing on the next Heartbreakers album to find out that it was really a Petty solo. My opinion of Petty the person went down a little after watching the movie. He came off as a person that is very much about "me" as opposed to "we." I had never picked up that vibe about him before.

What are the risks that a lead singer (and primary songwriter) in a successful band takes when going solo especially if they are going to continue on with the band? Alienating the fanbase that truly loves the band and not just the lead singer? Flopping and perhaps diminshing something about the band in the process? And in Gwen Stefani's case for me, making a bunch of songs that while catchy are very light-weight, thereby lessening my appreciation of the band at the same time.


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#556735 - 08/02/08 06:28 PM Re: Why lead singers of bands should't go solo.. [Re: FranzFerdinand]
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 Originally Posted By: FranzFerdinand
ummm. george michael.


George Michael was in a Group/Duo not a band. There is a difference.
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#556739 - 08/02/08 06:40 PM Re: Why lead singers of bands should't go solo.. [Re: Knighttime]
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 Originally Posted By: Knighttime
Rob Thomas. Second solo album will be coming out in a few months. However, it looks like he his going to try to balance a solo career and also put out albums with his band.


I'm not an expert, but isn't Matchbox 20 just Rob Thomas and a bunch of guys, thereby making the solo/band distinction a little dubious.

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#556740 - 08/02/08 06:44 PM Re: Why lead singers of bands should't go solo.. [Re: chloe]
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 Originally Posted By: chloe
I'm not an expert, but isn't Matchbox 20 just Rob Thomas and a bunch of guys, thereby making the solo/band distinction a little dubious.


huh? you mean like every other band with a lead singer?

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#556749 - 08/02/08 07:33 PM Re: Why lead singers of bands should't go solo.. [Re: mpj]
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 Originally Posted By: mpj
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I'm not an expert, but isn't Matchbox 20 just Rob Thomas and a bunch of guys, thereby making the solo/band distinction a little dubious.


huh? you mean like every other band with a lead singer?


Exactly. I could say the same thing about most bands that aren't old enough to be played on classic rock radio yet. Heck, I just found out the other guy's names in Tom Petty's band. Who else is in the E Street Band besides Bruce, his wife, and the guy from The Sapranos. Let's be realistic. I'm a casual fan (like most people) of many bands even those that I've seen live. The percentage of people that know tons of details about a band and the name of every band member is pretty small.


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#556760 - 08/02/08 08:42 PM Re: Why lead singers of bands should't go solo.. [Re: Knighttime]
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 Originally Posted By: Knighttime
Heck, I just found out the other guy's names in Tom Petty's band. Who else is in the E Street Band besides Bruce, his wife, and the guy from The Sapranos.


Sure, you're not expected to know everyone's star signs and favorite colors, and the acquisition of knowledge is a nonstop process. But enquiring minds appreciative of bands that have made hefty contributions to the genre, such as the aforementioned pair, might reasonably be expected to do a little research to satisfy their curiosity. It's not that hard these days: Hmm, Mike Campbell co-wrote this song, hey Roy Bittan plays keyboards on that artist's album. I certainly wouldn't wear my ignorance like a badge of honor (my initial remark about Matchbox 20 nothwithstanding).

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#556768 - 08/02/08 09:24 PM Re: Why lead singers of bands should't go solo.. [Re: Hsien_ko]
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I was under the impression that the lead singer from Emmy and the Emmys did alright for herself when she went solo...
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#556772 - 08/02/08 10:04 PM Re: Why lead singers of bands should't go solo.. [Re: Zero_Interest]
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Peter Cetera rocked our worlds when he left Chicago. It's hard for me to say I'm sorry to people who can't deal with this.
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#556783 - 08/02/08 10:34 PM Re: Why lead singers of bands should't go solo.. [Re: Knighttime]
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 Originally Posted By: Knighttime
Rob Thomas. Second solo album will be coming out in a few months. However, it looks like he his going to try to balance a solo career and also put out albums with his band. How many artists can you think of that have gone solo yet also remain with their band and produce albums? Obviously, Vedder is giving it a try. Any others?



Bryan Ferry.

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#556807 - 08/02/08 11:44 PM Re: Why lead singers of bands should't go solo.. [Re: myworld]
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besides those mentioned, i'd vote:

rod stewart (mostly)
fergal sharkey from the undertones (even though keef played on it)
annie lennox
belinda carlisle
david johanson
paul rogers
brian setzer (80's rock solo stuff)
Glen Frey
Don Henley
annabelle from bow wow wow
eric burdon
gene simmons/paul stanley

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#556815 - 08/03/08 12:08 AM Re: Why lead singers of bands should't go solo.. [Re: d_gauss]
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Ronnie Dio made some fine solo albums after fronting 2 successful bands.



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#556816 - 08/03/08 12:15 AM Re: Why lead singers of bands should't go solo.. [Re: d_gauss]
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 Originally Posted By: d_gauss
besides those mentioned, i'd vote:

rod stewart (mostly)


what do you mean? rod was a solo artist before he joined the faces.

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#556817 - 08/03/08 12:18 AM Re: Why lead singers of bands should't go solo.. [Re: mpj]
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Brian Wilson anyone???
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#556830 - 08/03/08 01:16 AM Re: Why lead singers of bands should't go solo.. [Re: mpj]
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what ..... no David Lee Roth haters??? He leavs the band and ends up playing local festivals for bus fair?

with the boys - millions!

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#556836 - 08/03/08 01:22 AM Re: Why lead singers of bands should't go solo.. [Re: mpj]
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 Originally Posted By: mpj
 Originally Posted By: d_gauss
besides those mentioned, i'd vote:

rod stewart (mostly)


what do you mean? rod was a solo artist before he joined the faces.


Wasn't Rod in the Jeff BEck Group before the Faces and his solo career?

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#556844 - 08/03/08 01:37 AM Re: Why lead singers of bands should't go solo.. [Re: Soup]
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Lots of Country folks that were in bands. Remember The Tractors? Yeah, some guy named Keith Urban sang for them!
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#556850 - 08/03/08 01:47 AM Re: Why lead singers of bands should't go solo.. [Re: Soup]
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Wasn't Rod in the Jeff BEck Group before the Faces and his solo career?

yes he was, but the jeff beck group was really not all that successful. i think the poster was referrring to him leaving the faces. rod was already on mercury/phonogram before he joined the faces....who were on WB....and then the layers mades lots of money.

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#556852 - 08/03/08 01:54 AM Re: Why lead singers of bands should't go solo.. [Re: myworld]
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ummm. george michael.


George Michael was in a Group/Duo not a band. There is a difference.



no there isn't.
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#556853 - 08/03/08 02:06 AM Re: Why lead singers of bands should't go solo.. [Re: FranzFerdinand]
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Anyone else get visions of Lisa Simpsons nightmare when she's playing with John Oates,Jim Messina and Art Garfunkel?
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#556855 - 08/03/08 02:14 AM Re: Why lead singers of bands should't go solo.. [Re: mpj]
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I understand that Bill Joel had some success after leaving Atilla .

OK, seriously... to qualify as an exception, I think the lead singer-turned-solo artist has to be more successful as a solo artist than he or she was with an already successful band. This narrows things down quite a bit.

John Lennon and Paul certainly had successful solo careers, but not as successful as the Beatles. Same goes for Roger Waters and David Gilmour. Even Phil Collins has not sold as many records as Genesis. I guess Sting has sold more than the Police, but he has also released more albums. Plus, the Police had bigger hits and had a greater cultural impact.

I think Lionel Richie is the best example of someone who was more successful as a solo artist. I cannot think of a better example than him.

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#556857 - 08/03/08 02:19 AM Re: Why lead singers of bands should't go solo.. [Re: QueenSheDevilCow]
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Even Phil Collins has not sold as many records as Genesis.

are you sure? i have a hard time believing that, especially with all the disney hype he got.

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#556860 - 08/03/08 02:41 AM Re: Why lead singers of bands should't go solo.. [Re: mpj]
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curtis mayfield from the impressions.
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#556861 - 08/03/08 02:45 AM Re: Why lead singers of bands should't go solo.. [Re: QueenSheDevilCow]
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 Originally Posted By: QueenSheDevilCow
I think Lionel Richie is the best example of someone who was more successful as a solo artist. I cannot think of a better example than him.


Jacko?

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#556863 - 08/03/08 02:47 AM Re: Why lead singers of bands should't go solo.. [Re: mpj]
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I'm pretty sure about that. Even in the 80s, when Collins became a superstar, Genesis had close to a dozen major hits. I think Invisible Touch was the best selling album of any of their catalogs.
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#556864 - 08/03/08 02:47 AM Re: Why lead singers of bands should't go solo.. [Re: chloe]
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I think Lionel Richie is the best example of someone who was more successful as a solo artist. I cannot think of a better example than him.


Jacko?


Doh. You got me there.

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#556870 - 08/03/08 03:04 AM Re: Why lead singers of bands should't go solo.. [Re: QueenSheDevilCow]
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Four Pages of threads re: why one SHOULD nOT go solo..ahahhaa


....listen man...a VOICE,.,,,at least a REAL one...ala Mc Cartney....Plant..U know the list

..is WHAT MAKES a BAND...simple as that..vox are replaceable..yea..with equal vox intelligencea

///but basically

its the voice that PEEPs give a heart connection to
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#556872 - 08/03/08 03:41 AM Re: Why lead singers of bands should't go solo.. [Re: QueenSheDevilCow]
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 Originally Posted By: QueenSheDevilCow
I'm pretty sure about that. Even in the 80s, when Collins became a superstar, Genesis had close to a dozen major hits. I think Invisible Touch was the best selling album of any of their catalogs.


that is not correct. phil has sold over 33 million records on his own...genesis 21 million.

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#556877 - 08/03/08 04:20 AM Re: Why lead singers of bands should't go solo.. [Re: honeevox]
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Sinatra...

Robyn Hitchcock? I guess the Egyptians bring an asterisk? Plus, I'm not sure he ever managed to top Can Of Bees anyway

Nick Cave? Same for the Bad Seeds?

Bob Mould (not exactly sure how to classify Sugar in this discussion)

Shane MacGowan's first album or so was very, very good

Joe Strummer's Streetcore...wow.

GP? Ice Cube? Ah...Mike 'Sport' Murphy, perhaps. (I know...who?) Never mind, unless you're curious enough to investigate...recommended.

Neil Young? (if that's not the best example of 'superior to the original band,' I don't know what is, and that's taking into account the merits of Buff Springfield plus the issue of David Crosby vis a vis The Byrds)

Others might say Van Morrison

I would say Ray Charles topped his work with the McSon/Maxon Trio in short order

Both the Izzy Stradlin & Slim Dunlap recs sound better to me as quasi-Stones rips than some other, remotely, similarly derivative band fronted by a guy who looks like Mr Coffee

I'll leave it to someone else to nominate Peter Frampton...

I realize this is an unusual view, but I've always liked the first album by David Jo, Thunders/Heartbreakers, and Sylvain Sylvain more than the actual Dolls records. Same for relatively oddball stuff like Buster's Spanish Rocketship, Stations Of The Cross & Live At Max's, Hurt Me, and the Harry Smith recs

In a way, both Pet Sounds & SMiLE aren't exactly "Beach Boys" records, but that's not necessarily a battle worth fighting in this thread

Iggy's a tough case to make in this context, at least in this house

Lou Reed & also John Cale, 'nuff said.

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#556881 - 08/03/08 04:54 AM Re: Why lead singers of bands should't go solo.. [Re: MindGoneHaywire]
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 Originally Posted By: MindGoneHaywire

I realize this is an unusual view, but I've always liked the first album by David Jo, Thunders/Heartbreakers, and Sylvain Sylvain more than the actual Dolls records. Same for relatively oddball stuff like Buster's Spanish Rocketship, Stations Of The Cross & Live At Max's, Hurt Me, and the Harry Smith recs


not unusual at all, but i left out johnny and syl 'cause they weren't the lead singer. dolls are a bad example, but perhaps this deserves a "who, (non front person) rose out of band semi-obscurity to bigger and better things" thread. i.e. robin trower, peter frampton, jack white, etc.

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#556904 - 08/03/08 01:51 PM Re: Why lead singers of bands should't go solo.. [Re: mpj]
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I'm pretty sure about that. Even in the 80s, when Collins became a superstar, Genesis had close to a dozen major hits. I think Invisible Touch was the best selling album of any of their catalogs.


that is not correct. phil has sold over 33 million records on his own...genesis 21 million.


I think they have both sold many times that.

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#556905 - 08/03/08 01:53 PM Re: Why lead singers of bands should't go solo.. [Re: d_gauss]
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There's a reason for the term 'Lead Singer's Disease' and not 'Bassist's Disease'. Here's a few more examples:

* Rob Halford goes industrial with 2. Bet he's tried to erase that from his brain. His Pantera rip-off band Fight wasn't good for much, either.

* Tarja Turunen cops a diva attitude that makes Diana Ross look like Mandy Moore and is told to GTFO from Nightwish. She's going nowhere now while they are finally gaining traction in the US.

* How many times did Yes break up because of Jon Anderson?

* Sascha Koneitzko essentially killed KMFDM in 2000, turning it into his project and driving out En Esch and Gunther Schulz, who were equally vital to the band's early sound.

* Bruce Dickinson's solo albums... Lawd, those were awful. "Dive! Dive! Dive!" WTF was Bruce smoking?

To toss in another out of obscurity example as d_gauss suggested, how about Nuge? He was with The Amboy Dukes, who had one hit, then went solo and lasted a whole lot longer than they did.

Ditto Lemmy. Motorhead is far more significant than Hawkwind.
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#556907 - 08/03/08 02:04 PM Re: Why lead singers of bands should't go solo.. [Re: QueenSheDevilCow]
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 Originally Posted By: QueenSheDevilCow
"that is not correct. phil has sold over 33 million records on his own...genesis 21 million."

I think they have both sold many times that.


those numbers are straight from riaa, current as of this year.

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#556909 - 08/03/08 02:09 PM Re: Why lead singers of bands should't go solo.. [Re: Ordell]
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As to the DLR reference upthread, I saw the "Eat Em And Smile" tour in an arena that was sold out for two nights when I was in 10th grade, so when he was young and vital and metal was king - Dave was hardly starving.

No one has mentioned Peter Murphy. While I can't stand his solo output, it made him a much bigger alt star than his (superior) Bauhaus work.

Bob Log III certainly made more of an impact on his own than with
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#556910 - 08/03/08 02:17 PM Re: Why lead singers of bands should't go solo.. [Re: Ordell]
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 Originally Posted By: Ordell

* Rob Halford goes industrial with 2. Bet he's tried to erase that from his brain. His Pantera rip-off band Fight wasn't good for much, either.

* Bruce Dickinson's solo albums... Lawd, those were awful. "Dive! Dive! Dive!" WTF was Bruce smoking?


The two Halford albums after 2 and Fight were much better than anything Priest was doing at the time.

Ditto Bruce's solo albums AFTER the aforementioned Tattooed Millionaire. Skunkworks, Accident of Birth, Chemical Wedding and A Tyranny of Souls were amazing.


How about King Diamond? His solo albums did much better than the Mercyful fate stuff.

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#556913 - 08/03/08 02:40 PM Re: Why lead singers of bands should't go solo.. [Re: mpj]
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"that is not correct. phil has sold over 33 million records on his own...genesis 21 million."

I think they have both sold many times that.


those numbers are straight from riaa, current as of this year.


I think RIAA numbers count US shipments, not worldwide sales.

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#556914 - 08/03/08 02:48 PM Re: Why lead singers of bands should't go solo.. [Re: QueenSheDevilCow]
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"that is not correct. phil has sold over 33 million records on his own...genesis 21 million."

I think they have both sold many times that.


those numbers are straight from riaa, current as of this year.


I think RIAA numbers count US shipments, not worldwide sales.


right... i was talking us. i think worldwide they are both over 100 mil at this point. the thing with phil, though, was he was not the singer...so going solo was a GOOD move for him. am i sure his publishing went up after he got from behind the kit.

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#556920 - 08/03/08 03:53 PM Re: Why lead singers of bands should't go solo.. [Re: Ordell]
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 Originally Posted By: Ordell
There's a reason for the term 'Lead Singer's Disease' and not 'Bassist's Disease'. Here's a few more examples:

* Rob Halford goes industrial with 2. Bet he's tried to erase that from his brain. His Pantera rip-off band Fight wasn't good for much, either.

* Tarja Turunen cops a diva attitude that makes Diana Ross look like Mandy Moore and is told to GTFO from Nightwish. She's going nowhere now while they are finally gaining traction in the US.

* How many times did Yes break up because of Jon Anderson?

* Sascha Koneitzko essentially killed KMFDM in 2000, turning it into his project and driving out En Esch and Gunther Schulz, who were equally vital to the band's early sound.

* Bruce Dickinson's solo albums... Lawd, those were awful. "Dive! Dive! Dive!" WTF was Bruce smoking?

To toss in another out of obscurity example as d_gauss suggested, how about Nuge? He was with The Amboy Dukes, who had one hit, then went solo and lasted a whole lot longer than they did.

Ditto Lemmy. Motorhead is far more significant than Hawkwind.


you just HAD to bring up kmfdm, didn't you?! that one still hurts...
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#556924 - 08/03/08 04:32 PM Re: Why lead singers of bands should't go solo.. [Re: jk666]
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* Rob Halford goes industrial with 2. Bet he's tried to erase that from his brain. His Pantera rip-off band Fight wasn't good for much, either.

* Bruce Dickinson's solo albums... Lawd, those were awful. "Dive! Dive! Dive!" WTF was Bruce smoking?


The two Halford albums after 2 and Fight were much better than anything Priest was doing at the time.

Ditto Bruce's solo albums AFTER the aforementioned Tattooed Millionaire. Skunkworks, Accident of Birth, Chemical Wedding and A Tyranny of Souls were amazing.


How about King Diamond? His solo albums did much better than the Mercyful fate stuff.



I know, didn't mention 'Resurrection'. It took a major motivation for Rob to do it, too. He came out, and had the epic fail of 2, before he finally started being intellectually honest.

Yeah, Priest were sucking. They needed him back, period.

Why the hell did Bruce go solo anyway?
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#556925 - 08/03/08 04:33 PM Re: Why lead singers of bands should't go solo.. [Re: FranzFerdinand]
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 Originally Posted By: FranzFerdinand

you just HAD to bring up kmfdm, didn't you?! that one still hurts...


Tell me about it. It sucks to see so many of my favorites will never top their greatest work.
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#556935 - 08/03/08 05:46 PM Re: Why lead singers of bands should't go solo.. [Re: Ordell]
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Does Gwen count? Holla Back.
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#556943 - 08/03/08 06:47 PM Re: Why lead singers of bands should't go solo.. [Re: Fowfan]
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 Originally Posted By: Fowfan
Lots of Country folks that were in bands. Remember The Tractors? Yeah, some guy named Keith Urban sang for them!


Sorry FOW, that's not correct. Urban was never in The Tractors.
They were a band of studio vets from Tulsa that Arista signed in the early 90's. Great band but never really took off.
Urban's band was The Ranch.

Also, Vince Gill hasn't done too bad since leaving Pure Prairie League.

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#556958 - 08/03/08 09:01 PM Re: Why lead singers of bands should't go solo.. [Re: zookeeper]
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I always thought Iggy Pop was pretty damn successful on his own. Ryan Adams has done well post-Whiskeytown.
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#556964 - 08/03/08 09:44 PM Re: Why lead singers of bands should't go solo.. [Re: LooseLips]
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Bruce went solo mainly because he said he felt like he was getting recognition because of who he was and the band that he was in and not for anything he himself was doing. He wanted to start over and be just another guy in the band, Skunkworks. I think the first 'solo' album Tattooed Millionaire was just for fun.

Of course I think he was more than a little tired of fighting with Steve too.

Ultimately it was win/win for everyone. Bruce established himself as a solo artist (with a lot of help from Roy Z) and was able top return to Maiden all the better for it. Maiden rejoined by Bruce was able to put out some decent records of their own and start playing to crowd that rivaled the ones on the mid 80's. Their performances on the last US tour were as good if not better than they were 20+ years ago.

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#556968 - 08/03/08 10:15 PM Re: Why lead singers of bands should't go solo.. [Re: zookeeper]
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 Originally Posted By: Fowfan
Lots of Country folks that were in bands. Remember The Tractors? Yeah, some guy named Keith Urban sang for them!


Sorry FOW, that's not correct. Urban was never in The Tractors.
They were a band of studio vets from Tulsa that Arista signed in the early 90's. Great band but never really took off.
Urban's band was The Ranch.

Also, Vince Gill hasn't done too bad since leaving Pure Prairie League.


Ooops! Thanks Zoo,my bad. I think I even saw The Ranch open for Little Texas in LA too. I meant well..
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#556971 - 08/03/08 10:31 PM Re: Why lead singers of bands should't go solo.. [Re: Fowfan]
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 Originally Posted By: Fowfan
 Originally Posted By: zookeeper
 Originally Posted By: Fowfan
Lots of Country folks that were in bands. Remember The Tractors? Yeah, some guy named Keith Urban sang for them!


Sorry FOW, that's not correct. Urban was never in The Tractors.
They were a band of studio vets from Tulsa that Arista signed in the early 90's. Great band but never really took off.
Urban's band was The Ranch.

Also, Vince Gill hasn't done too bad since leaving Pure Prairie League.


Ooops! Thanks Zoo,my bad. I think I even saw The Ranch open for Little Texas in LA too. I meant well..

No prob. The Ranch were really good; a power trio with Keith just shredding on guitar. Capitol signed them and put out one album. Boneheaded country radio wouldn't play them so they convinced Urban to do the solo thing and the rest is history.

Little Texas was a country big-hair band that had a few radio hits for a minute. We used to call them Little Nexxus.

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#557014 - 08/04/08 01:55 AM Re: Why lead singers of bands should't go solo.. [Re: zookeeper]
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Paul Weller ??

The Jam
Style Council

Morrissey ??

The Smiths

Believe both of these have had output which in some circles has certainly received plenty of respect as solo artists after breaking with their respective bands...

W Izard
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#557097 - 08/04/08 01:22 PM Re: Why lead singers of bands should't go solo.. [Re: wayne_izard]
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Eazy-E: Moderate success solo
Ice Cube: Big success as a solo artist helped cross him over into being a successful actor (not saying anything about the quality of that acting/the vehicles he chooses)
MC Ren, DJ Yella, the DOC: Not as much success as NWA

...and then there's:

Dr. Dre
Fucking way more successful than NWA.


Now I suppose someone is going to post that NWA isn't qualified because they aren't a 'band'...

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#557111 - 08/04/08 01:47 PM Re: Why lead singers of bands should't go solo.. [Re: mpj]
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what do you mean? rod was a solo artist before he joined the faces.

wrong. rod was in long john baldry's band; then he joined the Jeff Beck Group, which also featured Ron Wood. After they left that band, he and Ron Wood joined the Faces. This was after he turned down an offer from the band cactus. THEN he signed to Mercury to do a solo album (which featured ron wood on it). It was almost simulateneously but he wasn't a solo artist before joining the faces. his debut solo album came out just months before the first faces album but he was already a member before cutting the solo debut.

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#557125 - 08/04/08 02:07 PM Re: Why lead singers of bands should't go solo.. [Re: GoodGod]
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what do you mean? rod was a solo artist before he joined the faces.

wrong. rod was in long john baldry's band; then he joined the Jeff Beck Group, which also featured Ron Wood. After they left that band, he and Ron Wood joined the Faces. This was after he turned down an offer from the band cactus. THEN he signed to Mercury to do a solo album (which featured ron wood on it). It was almost simulateneously but he wasn't a solo artist before joining the faces. his debut solo album came out just months before the first faces album but he was already a member before cutting the solo debut.


true, he was in several other bands including baldry's, jbg, etc before the faces, but i suspect the op was referring to him leaving the faces.

BUT, rod signed to mercury before he was asked join the faces. woody joined the faces after the jbg broke up. rod used to go watch practice and they eventually asked him to be their singer. had rod been in the faces first, wb would have had rights to his solo career as well.

mercury granted wb the rights for rod to record with the faces with the idea that the faces records would help promote rod's solo stuff.

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#557142 - 08/04/08 02:32 PM Re: Why lead singers of bands should't go solo.. [Re: Zero_Interest]
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Wyman is a good example of band members that shouldn't go solo. A couple examples of duos that work better together than apart are Glenn Tilbrook and Chris Difford (Squeeze), and Dave Wakeling and "Rankin" Roger Charlery (English Beat/General Public). That could probably be a thread unto itself, I suppose.
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#557181 - 08/04/08 03:24 PM Re: Why lead singers of bands should't go solo.. [Re: WillisDickfit]
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Willis, you didn't like Wyman's solo hit "Je Suis Un Rock Star"?! \:\)

Other folks who arguably shouldn't have gone solo: Roger Waters and Richard Ashcroft, though certainly they've done some quality work as solo artistes.
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#557186 - 08/04/08 03:27 PM Re: Why lead singers of bands should't go solo.. [Re: Shelby68]
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Willis, you didn't like Wyman's solo hit "Je Suis Un Rock Star"?! \:\)

Other folks who arguably shouldn't have gone solo: Roger Waters and Richard Ashcroft, though certainly they've done some quality work as solo artistes.


can you name ashcroft's quality solo work?

i can, the "a song for the lovers" single. everything else is pure shite and i'm a diehard verve fan and love ashcroft.
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#557190 - 08/04/08 03:30 PM Re: Why lead singers of bands should't go solo.. [Re: FranzFerdinand]
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Yes, I loved most of the first album, esp. Come on People We're Making It Now, and Money to Burn. I still play them.

Edited by Shelby68 (08/04/08 03:31 PM)
Edit Reason: As well as "A Song for the Lovers," though I hated the video!
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#557197 - 08/04/08 03:35 PM Re: Why lead singers of bands should't go solo.. [Re: Shelby68]
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 Originally Posted By: Shelby68
Yes, I loved most of the first album, esp. Come on People We're Making It Now, and Money to Burn. I still play them.


you're very brave. the first album was tolerable but then he lost me. perfect example of guy who lost the plot once her got married, had a kid and found "bliss" and lost his better half (nick mccabe).

then the verve reunited and all is well again.
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#557204 - 08/04/08 03:42 PM Re: Why lead singers of bands should't go solo.. [Re: FranzFerdinand]
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I remember enjoying a few songs on his second album Human Conditions, especially "Check the Meaning," but I haven't gone back to it in a long time. And I didn't buy Keys to the World at all, though I felt kinda disloyal and bad about it.

I don't know much about his personal life, but I don't think it's been all bliss in the Ashcroft abode. Didn't the police pick him up in a primary school or something about 2 years ago? He was in an altered state and wouldn't leave the premises, though he didn't hurt or threaten anyone. A few of the toddlers even got to ask him questions like, "Are you really a rock star?"

I digress though: it's good he's back in the group.
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#557205 - 08/04/08 03:44 PM Re: Why lead singers of bands should't go solo.. [Re: Shelby68]
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 Originally Posted By: Shelby68


Didn't the police pick him up in a primary school or something about 2 years ago? He was in an altered state and wouldn't leave the premises, though he didn't hurt or threaten anyone. A few of the toddlers even got to ask him questions like, "Are you really a rock star?"


that is very funny.
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#557233 - 08/04/08 04:30 PM Re: Why lead singers of bands should't go solo.. [Re: LooseLips]
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 Originally Posted By: LooseLips
I always thought Iggy Pop was pretty damn successful on his own.


As were Lou Reed, John Cale and Nico.

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