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#659064 - 07/02/09 09:24 PM
Re: What happens to old record producers?
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In Nashville, most of the high profile ones came from publishing.
The engineers were the unsung heros. Most of the producers here wouldn't know one end of the console from the other. There are exceptions, of course. Owen Bradley, Tony Brown and Dan Huff were studio and road players first.
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#659073 - 07/02/09 10:04 PM
Re: What happens to old record producers?
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Giorgio Moroder - probably somewhere in Europe sleeping on a bed made of $100 bills. Justput out a cool book on record collecting.
Still not given enough credit for how truly important and groundbreaking he was. The cheese he did (and there was plenty) tends to obscure his importance, which is beyond vast.
A fantastic CV before he went mega, culminating in the PWEI "This Is The Day" album, an amazing production in every sense of the word. (From another band who has been severely - and wrongly - written out of history.)
Mutt Lange - getting over the divorce with Shania. Making sure his money is well hid in Switzerland.
Came across an anonymous disco record he made in around '79 recently, but haven't listened to it in depth yet. Should be a rather humorous skeleton.
Chris Thomas basically recorded a whole album with U2 that became How to Dismantle... before Lillywhite re-recorded it. I'm sure he got a lot of "fuck you" money from U2 when they chose to go in another direction with Lillywhite.
Had not heard that. Kinda glad to hear it worked out that way. For my money, of the big guys, he maybe has the best overall batting average in terms of variety and success rate. His (and Bill Price's) interviews in the Pistols Bollocks DVD are great.
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#659076 - 07/02/09 10:07 PM
Re: What happens to old record producers?
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Todd Rundgren - never a full-timer producer, primarily a musician, but has done enough work to be included in the mix. I will add that he started as an enginner (The Band, Jesse Winchester) learning the studio before taking acts on his own.
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#659086 - 07/02/09 11:09 PM
Re: What happens to old record producers?
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Bob Clearmountain just mixed Glenn Tilbrook's latest solo album. I heard Bob only works on stuff he is passionate about, so he is a fortunate dude. I heard that Bob approached Glenn and offered his services and of course, Glenn jumped at the chance.
Eddie Kramer as stated above is still busy and makes the odd appearance at Rock and Roll Fantasy Camps, producing the campers' songs.
I'll add Mitchell Froom to the list. (who is still working) and Hugh Padgham too.
And I'd like to rock some agreeance with Slider about Naras1's post. Quite right...that's the kind of stuff I still visit the Rope for...and sadly miss most of the time. I thought it was just me who noticed a change in the Rope.
Edited by amyglennmovie (07/03/09 01:23 AM)
Edit Reason: remembered Hugh Padgham
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#659094 - 07/02/09 11:55 PM
Re: What happens to old record producers?
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I think (and it's kinda clear from the posts in this thread) that ever since producers started getting a cut of sales, the really good ones don't have to work if they don't want to, once they've had a few hits.
Hell, look at Spector: he didn't buy that castle with the money he made off the Ramones and StarSailor.
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#659095 - 07/03/09 12:01 AM
Re: What happens to old record producers?
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More Can Con:
Jack Richardson should be mentioned here.
He went on to a long career teaching in Ontario, Canada after a diverse, platinum-heavy career. He was Bob Ezrin's mentor. Jack mortgaged his house to produce the Guess Who's first record, helped design the ring modulator for the great guitar solo in American Woman, and exec. produced ALL the classic Alice Cooper band records. Garth, his son, has had great success as well.
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#659110 - 07/03/09 12:56 AM
Re: What happens to old record producers?
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Bob Clearmountain just mixed Glenn Tilbrook's latest solo album. I heard Bob only works on stuff he is passionate about, so he is a fortunate dude. I heard that Bob approached Glenn and offered his services and of course, Glenn jumped at the chance.
Eddie Kramer as stated above is still busy and makes the odd appearance at Rock and Roll Fantasy Camps, producing the campers' songs.
I'll add Mitchell Froom to the list. (who is still working)
And I'd like to rock some agreeance with Slider about Naras1's post. Quite right...that's the kind of stuff I still visit the Rope for...and sadly miss most of the time. I thought it was just me who noticed a change in the Rope.
Agreeance. Best thread in a year.
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#659122 - 07/03/09 02:57 AM
Re: What happens to old record producers?
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#659131 - 07/03/09 04:08 AM
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To hang out with the "old" producers, you have to attend the AES convention. Last year in SF, we had Roy Thomas Baker, Eddie Kramer, Bob Clearmountain, Phil Ramone, and most of the producers that made your favorite "Old" records.
And producer's checks have shrunk from the downloading. A point was a point was something maybe $40K per year on a Platinum record but now barely anything with the downloads. They all have to keep working. And you can hire them for a very reasonable fee if you are not too irritating.
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