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#704934 - 03/13/10 10:44 PM Re: Article: Record Labels Change or Die [Re: NARAS1]
AlecPappas
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 Originally Posted By: NARAS1


I'm in the major pop world and I'm lucky to record 1 track for $7000 (With true accounting of hours and talent)and this is before Bob Ludwig or Tony Cousins get their ears/hands on it. Even if I record it in my studio I have to account for the hours and pay people. Any real professional would.


I'm not working in your world, and Ludwig has mastered projects I've worked on. He's great, but at that price point not value for money at my level. I can get better deals from Scott Hull or Eddy Schreyer, or I can get Roger Seibel to do as good a job at a third of the price. I don't have to take shit from some retard in a suit who says a brick wall job by Bob Ludwig(which he hates doing) is what the record needs to chart. Or have Tom Lord Alge charge me $5k a song for him to patch in a couple of compression/EQ chains.

My cost structures are maybe a quarter your cost structures(if I wanted to charge depreciation towards whom I work with, but my gear has actually appreciated in value), but my gear list will match yours for the most part. One of the perks of buying analog gear from radio stations before eBay took off and doing my own work when I can. That and living in a low cost environment.
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#704935 - 03/13/10 10:59 PM Re: Article: Record Labels Change or Die [Re: Duck_My_Sick]
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 Originally Posted By: Duck_My_Sick
Maybe I'm misunderstanding the question, but wasn't Loser recorded in someone's living room?


dust brothers, recorded for bong load.

the issue isn't "name one hit". it can be done, has been done. hits are less about cost and circumstances of the recording and more about the juice given once the record is made. while obviously a disproportionate number of hits come from the "system", that path is more than ever littered with failure. it's frightening how often "costly" records never even hit the street.

meanwhile just a ton of careers have been launched and will resonate just fine now that distribution is within the grasp of acts. this has nothing to do with hits, but rather connecting with the most responsive audience, and many acts have managed to make it work within low five figure budgets.
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#704959 - 03/14/10 12:30 PM Re: Article: Record Labels Change or Die [Re: AlecPappas]
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 Originally Posted By: AlecPappas
That was for Don't Look Back


i wasn't there, so who knows for sure, but...

more than a feeling

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#705083 - 03/15/10 04:50 AM Re: Article: Record Labels Change or Die [Re: d_gauss]
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"I don't include electronica/dance into my thinking on this, as there's no live tracking (typically)."

Moby's songs feature an awful lot of live tracking.

As do the Magnetic Fields -- up through 'Love Songs,' Stephin recorded almost all of that stuff on his own computers, in his apartment.

In fact, I know of a great many records that feature live tracking, that were recorded in a very basic environment, either via A/D interface or on a very simple analog set-up, mastered elsewhere later.

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